Thai Cat vs Siamese: The Old Style and the New, From the Documents
Thai cat vs Siamese from the registries' own documents: the real weight gap, the wedge-not-apple correction, the tail claim debunked, and the 1-to-5.8 population fact.
Published August 21, 2026 5 min read

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The Thai IS the old-style Siamese, formalised. calls it "the living equivalent of the original Wichien-maat of ancient Siam", and TICA and recognize both cats as fully separate breeds, with the Siamese as the Thai's one permissible outcross. That much every blog gets roughly right. What the blogs get wrong, we checked against the standards themselves, and two corrections below are the reason this page exists. (One scope note up front: this page compares the internationally recognized, Siamese-descended Thai. 's UK "Thai" is a different, Korat-descended population, covered in the closing note.)
| Thai | Siamese (modern) | |
|---|---|---|
| Head | Modified WEDGE, rounded cheeks (never 'apple' in any standard) | Long tapering wedge |
| weights | F 7-9 lb / M 9-12 lb: heavier at both ends | F 5-8 lb / M 8-12 lb |
| Tail | 'As long as the body' (): the shorter-tail claim is wrong | Long, whip-thin |
| Registries | + (2017) + WCF; NOT or | Recognized everywhere |
| Population (EU dataset) | 4,998 entries; LOWER kinship and inbreeding, no depression signs | 28,770 entries (5.8x the Thai) |
| The UK twist | 's 'Thai' is a DIFFERENT, Korat-descended cat | Siamese is the modern breed |
Weight: a real registry-stated gap, not a rounding artifact
's own boxes put the Thai heavier at both ends: Thai females 7-9 lb (3.2-4.1 kg) and males 9-12 lb (4.1-5.4 kg), against Siamese females 5-8 lb (2.3-3.6 kg) and males 8-12 lb (3.6-5.4 kg). Both breeds' standards also converge on the same qualitative hook: the Thai is "heavier than it looks". Neither registry gives a height figure at all. That is why the inch-figures circulating on comparison blogs (11-14 inches; "up to 23 inches") are unverified against any primary source, and we publish neither.
The head: wedge, not apple, in both registries' own words
Neither 's nor 's standard uses the word "apple" anywhere. Both describe the Thai's head as a modified WEDGE, rounder-cheeked and shorter-muzzled than the modern Siamese's long tapering wedge. TICA's own page addresses the popular term directly: "applehead" is a colloquial American nickname, not an official breed name. We note the nickname exists because readers arrive with it. The registries' own word is wedge, and the Siamese silo's old-style page tells that fuller story.
The tail: a checked correction
A ranking comparison site claims the Thai has a "shorter tail". 's current standard says the opposite in three words: the tail is "as long as the body". The claim is wrong at the primary source, and we publish the correction rather than the echo.
Temperament: shared registry cluster, one uncorroborated blog claim
Both breeds' pages independently describe the same cluster: vocal, athletic, intelligent, people-glued, poor at being left alone. The Thai page's own line is the richest quote in the file ("living with these cats is like living with small children... emotionally, they are high maintenance"). One circulating contrast, that the Thai "warms to strangers faster", appears in no registry document we read. It stays credited to the blogs that assert it.
Scale: the 1-to-5.8 fact nobody quotes
A European-mainland dataset (Pistorius & Blokker 2021) counts roughly one Thai entry for every 5.8 Siamese entries (4,998 against 28,770). It finds the Thai population carrying markedly LOWER kinship and inbreeding than the modern Siamese it descends from, with "no signs of inbreeding depression": a rare, measured, positive population finding, and honest context for why prices and waitlists differ. On price itself: no source anywhere sets a Thai figure directly against a Siamese one, an absence we state rather than fill.
The closing note: GCCF's Thai is a different cat
In the UK, 's "Thai" (Thai Blue Point, Thai Lilac, Thai Lilac Point) is a KORAT-descended population: in GCCF's own words, a different cat from the Siamese-descended breed this page compares, with its own DNA-testing regime. If you are reading UK papers, check which Thai they mean. Our Thai profile's registry section maps the whole split.
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Frequently asked questions
Is a Thai cat the same as a Siamese?
No: TICA and FIFe recognize them as separate breeds, the Thai preserving the old rounded-wedge style and running registry-stated heavier, with the Siamese as its only permitted outcross. CFA and Canada's CCA-AFC recognize only the Siamese.
Is a Thai cat an applehead Siamese?
Functionally the same tradition, formally distinct: "applehead" is a colloquial nickname (TICA's own page says so), while the Thai is a registered breed whose standards say "wedge", not "apple". The old-style Siamese story has its own page on our Siamese silo.
Which is bigger, Thai or Siamese?
The Thai, by the registries' own boxes, at both ends of the female range and the male floor: 7-9/9-12 lb against the Siamese's 5-8/8-12. Height figures do not exist at any registry, whatever the blogs print.
Do Thai cats have shorter tails than Siamese?
No: FIFe's standard specifies a tail "as long as the body". The shorter-tail claim circulating on comparison sites contradicts the primary document.
Are Thai cats healthier than Siamese?
The one measured population finding runs in the Thai's favour: lower kinship and inbreeding than the modern Siamese, with no signs of inbreeding depression, in a 2021 pedigree study. That is a population statement, never a promise about any kitten: parents' tests and a vet relationship still decide.
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Medical information applies to every reader. Prices, legal duties and common practice do not: unless stated otherwise, they are given for the United States, and they differ in the UK, Canada and Australia, and often between states or provinces. Check with your own vet and your own local authority.
Our sources
- TICA: Thai breed page (the Wichien-maat line; the weight boxes; the applehead note)
- FIFe: Thai breed standard PDF (the wedge; the tail 'as long as the body')
- TICA: Siamese breed page (the comparison boxes)
- Pistorius & Blokker 2021, Genet Sel Evol: the 1-to-5.8 population dataset and the inbreeding finding (PMID 33407084)
- GCCF: Thai breed page (the different, Korat-descended UK population)

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